425
Filed by DSW Inc.
Pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act of 1933
and deemed filed pursuant to Rule 14a-12
under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Subject Company: Retail Ventures, Inc.
Commission File No.: 1-10767
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Feb 09, 2011 / 01:00PM GMT, DSW DSW and Retail Ventures Conference Call to Discuss Merger
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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Leslie Neville
DSW Inc. Director IR
Mike MacDonald
DSW Inc. CEO
Doug Probst
DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Debbie Ferree
DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Bill Jordan
DSW Inc. General Counsel
Jim McGrady
Retail Ventures Inc. President, CEO, CFO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Scott Krasik
BB&T Capital Markets Analyst
Chris Svezia
Susquehanna Financial Group Analyst
Patrick McKeever
MKM Partners Analyst
Jody Yen
Buckingham Research Analyst
David Mann
Johnson Rice Analyst
Dana Walker
Kalmar Investments Analyst
Adam Comora
Fortistar Capital Analyst
Sam Poser
Sterne Agee & Leach Analyst
Steve Velgot
SIG Analyst
Sam Kidston
North & Webster Analyst
Scott Houlihan
OTA LLC Analyst
Sachin Shah
Capital Markets Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the DSW and Retail Ventures Merger Conference
Call. My name is Tanya and I will be your coordinator for today. At this time, all participants are
in listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session.
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(Operator Instructions)
As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the
conference over to your host for today, Ms. Leslie Neville, Director, Investor Relations.
Leslie Neville DSW Inc. Director IR
Hi. Thank you and good morning. Welcome to the conference call to announce the merger
agreement between DSW, Designer Shoe Warehouse, and Retail Ventures. With me today in Columbus are
Mike MacDonald, CEO; Debbie Ferree, Vice Chairperson and Chief Merchandising Officer; Doug Probst,
CFO; and Bill Jordan, General Counsel. Those are all executives from DSW. Then from RVI we have Jim
McGrady, CEO, and Julie Davis, General Counsel.
Last evening, we issued a press release announcing a proposed merger between DSW and RVI. A copy of
the press release, the merger agreement, and an investor presentation have been filed with the SEC
and are intended to further outline the details of the transaction for investors. These materials
are also available on our website at dswinc.com and retailventuresinc.com.
Before we proceed, please note that various remarks we make about the future expectations, plans,
and prospects of the Company constitute forward-looking statements. The actual results may differ
materially from those indicated by these forward-looking statements as a result of various
important factors including those listed in yesterdays press release and in our public filings
with the SEC. Now, I will turn it over to Mike to cover the details of the merger.
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
Thanks, Leslie, and good morning, everyone. Let me begin by saying were very excited to
announce the merger transaction between DSW and RVI. This transaction is one weve been hoping
would come about for some time now because we believe it creates substantial benefits for both DSW
and RVI shareholders.
The objective of this conference call is to explain the transaction as simply as possible and
describe the significant value we expected to create for shareholders. The transaction provides for
Retail Ventures to become a wholly-owned subsidiary of DSW in a tax-free exchange of shares at an
exchange ratio of 0.435 DSW shares for each RVI share.
The four main benefits of this transaction are as follows. First, a simplified corporate structure.
Second, increased trading liquidity. Third, a potential reduction in the number of DSW shares
outstanding. And fourth, the utilization of significant NOLs and tax credits.
Now, let me expand on this list. First, I believe a very important benefit of this merger is the
achievement of a more simplified corporate structure. The relationship between RVI and DSW has been
a source of confusion and uncertainty in the marketplace since DSW went public in 2005.
Although there is nothing operationally difficult about the way in which DSW and RVI interact, the
complex corporate structure itself is difficult for many to understand, and that no doubt has
deterred some investors from investing in DSW.
By way of background, let me remind you that RVI is a separate public Company. Because RVI has no
operating businesses and acts only as a holding Company but owns 62% of the outstanding shares of
DSW, there have been questions as to what purpose was served by maintaining it as a separate public
Company.
Now as a result of the merger, the separate public corporate existence of RVI will cease. RVI will
fold into DSW, and DSW will continue as a public Company. As we move forward, we believe this more
efficient and more conventional structure will help make the DSW story easier to understand and
attractive to more investors.
The second benefit is that the share exchange resulting from this transaction is expected to
increase public float and trading liquidity. Let me explain. As a result of the proposed
transaction, each RVI shareholder will receive newly issued DSW common shares.
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You may remember that there are two classes of DSW shares Class A and Class B. Class A shares
are traded on the New York Stock Exchange and carry one vote per share. Class B shares are
unlisted, but carry eight votes per share. The newly issued DSW shares will be Class A shares
unless the shareholder elects to receive Class B shares.
We believe most RVI shareholders, other than Schottenstein Stores Corporation and its affiliates,
or SSC, will opt for Class A shares. If 100% of RVI shareholders, other than SSC, elect to receive
Class A shares, the number of class A shares will increase by approximately 10.7 million shares,
which represents an increase of over 60% in the public float.
Third, there is a potential to reduce the number of diluted shares outstanding of DSW. As a direct
result of this transaction, we expect DSW to have slightly fewer diluted shares outstanding.
However, the larger impact on outstanding shares results from DSW gaining control over how to
settle RVIs outstanding $134 million face value debt securities known as [PIES].
The PIES mature in September of 2011. At that time, DSW will have the option to either settle the
PIES in cash or distribute shares that are reserved for this purpose. Assuming the pies are settled
in cash, DSW would retire the reserved shares, thereby reducing the number of DSW diluted shares
outstanding by approximately 10%. This would have an accretive impact on DSW earnings per share.
The fourth benefit is that DSW is expected to be able to utilize $350 million of federal NOLs and
additional tax credits. These NOLs and tax credits are expected to result in significant cash tax
savings over the next several years. DSW and RVI received a private letter ruling from the IRS
confirming that the merger will be a tax-free reorganization and, as such, DSW will succeed to the
tax attributes of RVI.
From an RVI perspective, all of the benefits we mentioned will apply not only to DSW shareholders,
but to RVI shareholders as well. Additional benefits include the elimination of expenses associated
with maintaining RVI as a separate public Company and the ability for RVI shareholders to own DSW
shares directly instead of through RVI.
In summary, the proposed transaction provides several economic and non-economic benefits to
shareholders of both DSW and RVI. The Company intends to file a joint proxy statement prospectus as
soon as possible. Once this registration statement is declared effective, DSW and RVI will seek
shareholder approval for the transaction.
The go-forward Company will have a simplified corporate structure with substantial additional
benefits in terms of trading liquidity and tax savings. We believe this is a significant step
forward towards increasing shareholder value. Now, let me give you a brief update on our business
results. As you might expect, weve been very busy working on this transaction, but it has not
distracted us from our main focus of running the DSW business.
Im happy to report that the DSW brand and operational performance is as strong as ever, which is
reflected in our sales results and our updated earnings guidance we released last night. Our sales
for 2010 reached $1.82 billion on 13.2% comps and we now expect our diluted earnings per share to
be between $2.38 and $2.42. We will, of course, speak more to these results on our year-end
earnings call in mid-March. With that, Ill turn the call back over to Leslie to explain the Q&A
procedures.
Leslie Neville DSW Inc. Director IR
Okay. Nows the questions and answer. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up
on the first round. This way we will have a better chance to get to each questioner. You are
welcome to get back in the queue in the same manner you did originally. Tanya, could you please
instruct how the callers can indicate a question?
QUESTION AND ANSWER
Operator
Yes.
(Operator Instructions)
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Our first question will come from the line of Scott Krasik with BB&T Capital Markets. You may
proceed with your question.
Scott Krasik BB&T Capital Markets Analyst
Thanks, guys. Congratulations. Question, is there any SG&A in DSWs P&L related to RVI at this
point?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
This is Doug. Hi, Scott. If youre referring to 2010, in the press release we referred to the
fact that theres about $0.05 impact in our 2010 results. But as far as going forward, we believe
the incremental ongoing expenses might be about $1 million on an annual basis.
Scott Krasik BB&T Capital Markets Analyst
I know the shared services plan is way over, but is there anything else? Are there any offices
held? I dont know if theres anything thats just on an ongoing basis, quarter-by-quarter, that
you have related to RVI that would go away.
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Again, if youre referring to 2010?
Scott Krasik BB&T Capital Markets Analyst
2009, 2010, yes.
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Yes. Remember, the shared services has been winding down for quite some time. And, in fact, in
2009 and 2010 there were very little services provided by DSW to RVI. So again, its external
financial reporting, those sort of things. So the shared service equation has been rather minimal
over the last couple of years.
Scott Krasik BB&T Capital Markets Analyst
Okay. So you dont get any benefit from that standpoint, from folding the corporate structure?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Nothing.
Scott Krasik BB&T Capital Markets Analyst
Okay. And then just a couple of questions on the PIES. Are they callable prior to September
2011?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
No. Just so you know, no, they are not callable.
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Scott Krasik BB&T Capital Markets Analyst
Okay. And then can you just run through the math. The shares this is just confusing the
shares that RVI would have had to issue if they were will a separate corporate entity, that was not
a part of the shares that they own the Class B shares that they own? They were additional shares
held in reserve? Is that correct?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
The shares to be delivered for the PIES were shares that were already owned by Retail Ventures
and part of the 27.4 million DSW shares that RVI held.
Scott Krasik BB&T Capital Markets Analyst
Okay. So in terms of the accretion or the 10% reduction in the shares outstanding, assuming
you redeem the PIES in cash, theyre already in the share count. So in that 44.9, those 4 million
shares or so are already in the outstanding share count? Those will get retired? Is that correct?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Yes. They are in the diluted share count today, yes.
Scott Krasik BB&T Capital Markets Analyst
Okay. Okay. And then, just the last question. Debbie, anything that you can . Obviously, I
think people were surprised about the strength of the comps; congratulations. Anything notable
there, either by category, classification, timing, month-to-month, or was it just a pretty
consistent quarter across-the-board in terms of sales?
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
It was pretty consistent across-the-board. Every single category had comp increases and it was
just a continuation of the success that we actually saw in the third quarter that seems to be
continuing in the business. So, no surprises there.
Scott Krasik BB&T Capital Markets Analyst
And from a month-to-month standpoint? Anything notable?
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Not really, no.
Scott Krasik BB&T Capital Markets Analyst
Okay. Well, congratulations, guys.
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
Thanks.
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Thank you.
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Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Chris Svezia with Susquehanna Financial Group. You
may proceed with your question.
Chris Svezia Susquehanna Financial Group Analyst
Good morning, everyone. Congratulations on the quarter and on this announcement as well. I
guess my first question is rather simple, I hope. But can you just tell us what the share count
will be once the transaction closes, for DSW?
Right now, you have roughly 45 million or thereabouts outstanding overall. Could you just tell us
what thats going to be? Because youre making a comment that your overall share count will come
down a bit once the transaction closes regardless of the PIES. Im just trying to figure out what
that number is.
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Yes. If you break it down into two pieces, when the transaction closes, there wont be a
significant change in share count. There will be a slightly lowered share count by our estimates,
calculating the dilution, so going from 45 million, maybe slightly down a few 100,000 shares. The
second phase is when we decide to settle the PIES. And then if we decide to settle those in cash,
thats when you get the, I would say, 8% to 10% reduction in outstanding shares.
Chris Svezia Susquehanna Financial Group Analyst
Okay. The other question I had is on the taxes and the tax benefits, how do we think about
that $350 million? How does that apply to DSW? Does the tax rate slowly come down or the actual
cash tax paid actual starts to come down? When does that happen, and how do we think about that
number?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
As you might expect, theres some complexities to it. But simply, its just the NOLs that were
referred to in the press release at $350 million, thats gross. So if you take roughly a 35%
federal tax rate against that .
Chris Svezia Susquehanna Financial Group Analyst
Okay.
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
And then that amount can be a cash tax savings in the amount that DSW produces net income, or
pre-tax income. So that is a straight cash reduction as we go forward.
Chris Svezia Susquehanna Financial Group Analyst
Okay. And the last thing I just want to ask is are there any liabilities coming from RVI that
you guys are going to inherit, whether its just from Value City or Filenes anything there that
we should just be made aware of that you guys are bringing in-house or is it pretty clean at this
point?
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Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Obviously, if you look at the RVI balance sheet youll see some liabilities there, including
the PIES interest that we will assume once the deal closes. so that could range from $15 million to
$20 million. As far as any kind of contingent liabilities you might be referring to, we believe
those have all been adequately accounted for and weve got those considered.
Chris Svezia Susquehanna Financial Group Analyst
Okay. All right. Great job and great job on the quarter and everything, guys. Thanks.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Patrick McKeever with MKM Partners. You may proceed
with your question.
Patrick McKeever MKM Partners Analyst
Okay. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I guess just a little more detail, then, on that last
question about how much of the $350 million in NOLs and tax credits can be applied. So, Doug, are
you saying that that entire that that will be sort of a direct offset against any pre-tax income
going forward until those NOLs and tax credits are exhausted?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Yes.
Patrick McKeever MKM Partners Analyst
So, you would essentially be paying no taxes, then, for X number of quarters?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Yes. Theres some potential limitation on that, obviously, with how much income we make, but
we believe that most of it should be able to be utilized
Patrick McKeever MKM Partners Analyst
Okay.
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
over time.
Patrick McKeever MKM Partners Analyst
Got it. Okay, great. And then, for Debbie. I know the call is more geared toward the merger
announcement, but in looking into 2011 now with the holiday season behind you and many of the
orders placed for the first half of the year and looking at orders for the back half of the year,
just wondering if you could give us a little bit of an update on what youre seeing from a
merchandise cost standpoint for both the first half and the back half of the year? Thanks.
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Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Hi, Patrick. First of all, the cost increases are coming out fairly consistently with what
Ive talked about on the last couple of earnings calls, and that would be in the mid-single digit
cost increases. We are just now getting prices back after attending the New York Shoe Show that
really impacts the end of third quarter, beginning of fourth quarter.
We are expecting that there could be some additional cost increases on the back half in addition to
what we saw for the first three quarters. I would say that the total cost increase for the year is
looking like its in the range of somewhere, depending on the category because not all categories
got hit the same, somewhere, I would say, between the 7% to 12% mark. And theres a huge
fluctuation there, like I said, depending on the category, whether its shoes, boots, or whatever.
As far as what were seeing in business right now, just as a sidebar, we are getting some nice
early results in some of the early spring goods that were getting in, so Im very pleased with
what Im seeing so far, as far as that goes.
Patrick McKeever MKM Partners Analyst
Great, thank you.
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Youre welcome.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of John Zolidis with Buckingham Research. You may
proceed with your question.
Jody Yen Buckingham Research Analyst
Good morning. This is [Jody Yen] calling on behalf of John. Congratulations on your quarter. I
just wanted to get a sense of how did weather impact your business? Did you sell a lot of cold
weather boots or did it hurt your business?
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Well, the boot business overall for the fourth quarter, actually and Ill just kind of
stick with that was really strong. We were up about 16% in fourth quarter and 57% on a two-year.
So we really had strong boot sales across most categories.
The cold weather sales in December and January werent quite as strong as I thought. We had
positive comp increases, but we really saw the increases coming out of fashion. And thats really
continuing into the first quarter, to be honest with you, so it was really across-the-board. It was
a pretty well balanced performance in boots.
Jody Yen Buckingham Research Analyst
Okay. And just one follow-up question. How did your merchandise margins perform relative to
your guidance at the start of the quarter?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Lets focus on that come mid-March. And I could tell you that obviously taking our range up
yet again would give you some impression that we were very pleased with our merchandise margins in
the fourth quarter. But other than that, well save some of those detailed questions for our fourth
quarter call.
Jody Yen Buckingham Research Analyst
Thank you.
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Operator
Our next question will come from the line of David Mann with Johnson Rice. You may proceed
with your question.
David Mann Johnson Rice Analyst
Yes, thank you. Good morning. Congratulations. And I guess I would just say finally, Im glad
you guys were able to get this done.
First question for Mike. I know you talked recently about trying to address all the excess cash you
have. Even if you do retire the PIES in cash, it seems like youre still going to be generating a
lot of cash and then add onto that all these cash taxes youre not going to be paying. So I guess
the question is, in the near-term, is there an opportunity for you to start putting that cash to
work in terms of buying stock or dividends?
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
Sure. I think relative to your comment, the way we think about it is the cash tax savings
potentially over the next few years could pay for a cash redemption of the PIES, okay? So theres
not a net plus there.
But your point is still valid, that we have a lot of cash and we continue to generate a lot of
cash. We are going to open up, as you may recall, more stores in 2011, like twice as many stores as
we have for the last two years. We are going to be more aggressive in terms of our remodel program
and our clearance wall elimination program thats part of that remodel program.
I think particularly in the back half of the year after this transaction is finalized and our
position on the redemption of the PIES is settled, well get more serious about how we use our
cash. We continue to look externally for opportunities to invest that and, of course, will consider
the more conventional shareholder return opportunities we have in terms of dividends and stock
buybacks as well.
So I guess its a long way of saying I dont think this transaction will create a windfall of
additional cash, but were still left with the same issues as to how we best utilize the additional
cash we have on the balance sheet over and above what we need to run the business, and were
getting more serious about how we address that opportunity.
David Mann Johnson Rice Analyst
Great. Thats very helpful. Doug, in terms of the NOL, maybe you could just clarify a little
bit more. When you think about limitations, in terms of the current kind of cash taxes that youre
paying, would you expect any limitations in the foreseeable future?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Not significant.
David Mann Johnson Rice Analyst
Okay.
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Remember, theres also some tax credits there as well on top of the NOLs.
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David Mann Johnson Rice Analyst
Okay. Thats helpful. And then on the earlier question about any costs that youre going to
perhaps that were being offset by RVI, maybe that they were paying you. It sounds like you said
theres only going to be about a $1 million increase in expense with RVI being part of your
subsidiary now. Is that correct?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Right. And what I was referring to is the recurring expenses. Obviously, there will be some
short-term expenses that will kind of go away as the deal gets settled in. But on the ongoing,
recurring expenses, we expect it to be about $1 million.
David Mann Johnson Rice Analyst
Okay. And then one question for Debbie. One of the consequences of the incredible success of
you and your team is I guess like what you said about boots being up so strong on a two-year basis,
not just in the fourth quarter, but for the whole second half. So can you talk about how youre
approaching boots in the back half of this year and expectations, just in general, about your
ability to stay comp positively against that?
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Yes, David. So just generally, I just got back from the Shoe Show in New York, and I went in
with a kind of not skeptical but cautious, I would say, because we did have such a strong back half
in boots. Coming out of the Shoe Show, I saw enough new products that I got very excited and have
really taken the position that I think that 2011 will once again be a very strong boot year boot
season.
So, havent really put numbers to that right now. I know that what I went in with, what I thought
we would be able to comp next year on top of the outstanding performance this year, was lower than
what I walked out with after the Shoe Show. So were going to be finalizing those numbers in the
next couple of weeks, but I think were in for another really strong inning in boots.
David Mann Johnson Rice Analyst
And then in terms of what youve seen at recent shows and recent purchases, are you seeing
more close-out opportunities or opportunistic buys? And if so, can you just clarify whether thats
going up as a percentage in your mix, especially going up with the inflation that youre seeing
next year?
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Just generally, the close-out opportunities actually happen in-season, so we actually havent
really gotten into the season for me to really give you any specific insight there, but I think
its probably going to stay relatively the same.
I think what we really have to focus on, which is what the big drivers have been in this Company
have been, being able to predict the trends, hit the trends, hit the key items, and really drive
the business through some strong regular price, new fresh selling. And I was really very excited
when I came out of the market, not only for fall, but actually for what weve got coming in for
this spring.
So I think you need of close-out as probably flat to last year. And if opportunities arise during
the season that are really great opportunities for DSW, were going to take advantage of them.
David Mann Johnson Rice Analyst
Great. Thank you very much.
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Youre welcome, David.
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Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Dana Walker with Kalmar Investments. You may proceed
with your question.
Dana Walker Kalmar Investments Analyst
I will proceed. Good morning. The nickel of frictional costs related to working on this, would
this have all resided in Q4 or would this have been through the year?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
I would say about $0.03 was in the fourth quarter. More specifically, there was about a little
over $2 million of expense, and then the balance of the impact was the tax effect of some of those
expenses.
Dana Walker Kalmar Investments Analyst
Understood. Maybe, Debbie, if its not a trespass on what you would hope to say in March, if
you would comment on inventories. I presume that theyre better with a near 15% comp than they
would be with a 5% comp. But any comments would be appreciated.
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Well, let me jump in there for general numbers. Yes, we will talk about it a little bit more
specifically. We like our inventory position. We did do some pre-buys for next year. But generally,
we are happy with our inventory positions and how the inventories are flowing in into the spring
season.
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Yes. Just to add some commentary to that, at the end of this past season we always buy
opportunistic buys. But at the end of the last season, what we really saw is some exceptional
opportunities in some additional boots and some other things, but it was mostly boots.
The position we took there is if the merchandise was current, if it would not look aged, if it was
more predictable fashion, is what I call it, and almost basic, and we could get a deeply discounted
deal from the market on that, we would take advantage of that. And the advantage to that is its
serving as a leverage to some of the cost increases that youre going to see coming through next
year on the back half.
So these pre-buys were out of season buys, so we just bought them, that will be allocated in
season, which will be third and fourth quarter next year, that really do help us pass on value and
leverage cost increases on the back half. So it was a very good thing.
Dana Walker Kalmar Investments Analyst
And if you would, how about a comment about the state of your clearance inventories?
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Yes. Clearance inventories as crossed (inaudible) were relatively flat to last year, and we
were very pleased with our position.
Dana Walker Kalmar Investments Analyst
Mike, is there anything magical about the exchange ratio that you negotiated?
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Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
I dont know what qualifies as magical, Dana, but the ratio is determined through, as you
would expect, the negotiation process between the special committees of each board of directors,
and it represents an amount that both companies believe is fair and in the best interest of their
respective shareholders.
Dana Walker Kalmar Investments Analyst
But since the share count, it just seems to naturally flow. There doesnt appear to have been
a meaningful amount of value applied to the NOL, as a for instance.
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
I can understand that interpretation.
Dana Walker Kalmar Investments Analyst
You agree with that?
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
I do.
Dana Walker Kalmar Investments Analyst
Okay. Understood. Final question from me, when would you expect to go live on your media
again? And what, if anything, new might we see in the way you intend to update your branding and
your message to your audience?
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
In terms of magazine ads, youll see them, theyre already on the magazine stands right now in
all the fashion magazines, I think youll see an upgraded image, much more sophisticated.
In terms of broadcast media, our TV campaign will begin on Valentines Day. And as we may have said
in the past, talking shoes have gone silent and have been replaced by a more upscale, sophisticated
campaign that I think will position us to reflect more of our brand essence, which is that of not
just a great place to buy brands at a great price, but a real fashion authority in the shoe
category. So stay tuned for that, Dana. I think youre going to love the spots and were excited
about what they can do to upgrade our brand image.
Dana Walker Kalmar Investments Analyst
I was hoping we would see emoting shoes, but
Dana Walker Kalmar Investments Analyst
Ha, ha, ha. Good stuff. Thank you.
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
Thank you.
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Operator
Our next question comes from the line of [Adam Comora] with Fortistar Capital. You may proceed
with your question.
Adam Comora Fortistar Capital Analyst
Hi. Thanks. Congrats, everybody, on the transaction. I think most of my questions have been
answered, but I just had a question on how the A and the B shares, or the liquidity on those
super-voting shares, can you just walk us through quickly on how that works? It doesnt sound like
theyre going to be trading?
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
Im not sure, Adam, I understand your question fully. The B shares have never traded.
Adam Comora Fortistar Capital Analyst
Okay, so just explain that to me. So, people can decide in the next in a short period
whether or not theyre going to keep the voting stock? And if you wanted to trade those shares, how
would that work?
Bill Jordan DSW Inc. General Counsel
This is Bill Jordan. The RVI shareholders will have the option to select either A or B shares,
but these shares will not be listed or traded on the New York Stock Exchange. If an RVI shareholder
does elect B shares, there will not be a medium over which to trade those shares. However, there is
a mechanism that will be put in place that will allow RVI shareholders to convert those B shares
into A shares at any time in the future.
Adam Comora Fortistar Capital Analyst
Okay. Thank you very much, and congrats to everybody again.
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Sam Poser with Sterne Agee. You may proceed with your
question.
Sam Poser Sterne Agee & Leach Analyst
Good morning. Debbie, could you tell us, as you look back on the numbers in your same store
sales in 2010 and how youre looking at 2011, how much you attribute to the mix versus the systems
and how we should look at that going forward?
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Were not really speaking to anything on 2011 right now. So frankly, Sam, Id like to kind of
save that for our March earnings call.
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Sam Poser Sterne Agee & Leach Analyst
Well, in 2010, you went through you had very nice same store sales; youve already talked
about that .
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Okay.
Sam Poser Sterne Agee & Leach Analyst
and youve been working on the JDA systems improvements and everything quite aggressively.
So how much would you attribute to systems versus mix, or how much did the systems help you drive
the comp?
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
I would tell you that as we talked before, a lot of the systems improvement we just
recently implemented this year. There were some system improvements not really system
improvements, but system/process improvements.
And, Sam, that was really what we talked to you about out in California on the size replenishment
and the benefit that it really had to the mens business. Were starting to implement some size
replenishment in the womens business for spring, and thats just starting right now, so we really
dont have any news to report to you there.
But I will tell you, the things that we have been able to implement have had a positive directional
effects. I cant really quantify that for you right now other than I will tell you that it really
helped us tremendously in our core size replenishment in the mens business. And, as you know, in
Q4 the mens business was up almost 14%. So thats all I think I can really tell you right now
about that.
Sam Poser Sterne Agee & Leach Analyst
Thanks very much, and continued success.
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Thank you.
Operator
Our next question will come from the line of Steve Velgot with SIG. You may proceed with your
question.
Steve Velgot SIG Analyst
Yes. Just a couple of questions. Can you tell me whether or not it was contemplated to have a
separate vote of the non-controlling RVI shareholders, kind of a majority of the minority vote on
the RVI side?
Jim McGrady Retail Ventures Inc. President, CEO, CFO
Its Jim McGrady. We did take a look at that and determined that it would be equitable if we
just had a majority vote all of the shareholders.
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Steve Velgot SIG Analyst
Okay. And then, just getting back to the specific exchange ratio, I know that was a negotiated
ratio. I take it that took into account some higher level of net effective ownership of DSW offset
by the $15 million to $20 million of RVIs liabilities, but also paying not much for the $350
million in NOLs. Thats why Im just kind of unsure why RVIs shareholders arent getting somewhat
higher exchange ratio.
Bill Jordan DSW Inc. General Counsel
I think the exchange ratio is based on a number of factors, not one in particular factor, and
both companies and both special committees spent a lot of time weighing all those different factors
in determining that exchange ratio. So we cant say one factor drove the exchange ratio. It is a
number of factors that everybody looked at to get to that ratio.
Steve Velgot SIG Analyst
Okay. And then just a follow-up. Did you say anything about your expected timing of closing of
this deal? I take it youre not assuming there would be like 10% type dissenters in this instance?
Bill Jordan DSW Inc. General Counsel
We hope that all of our shareholders at both companies will support and that there will not be
dissenters. I think we expect to close sometime in the second quarter.
Steve Velgot SIG Analyst
Great. Thank you.
Operator
Our next question will come from the line of Sam Kidston with North & Webster. You may proceed
with your question.
Sam Kidston North & Webster Analyst
Yes, hi. Just a quick covered most of the stuff on the NOLs, but one question. Is there any
opportunity to use this on a carry-back basis? I know DSW was a cash taxpayer in the past.
Doug Probst DSW Inc. EVP, CFO
That is not an opportunity.
Operator
Mr. Kidston, your line is still open. You may proceed with your question.
Sam Kidston North & Webster Analyst
Im all set; that was my question. Thank you.
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
Thanks.
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Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Scott Houlihan with OTA LLC. You may proceed with
your question.
Scott Houlihan OTA LLC Analyst
Hi. I was wondering if you guys had thought about allowing RVI to dividend the DSW stake to
its shareholders as an alternative, or why didnt RVI issue stock to DSW and do it the other way
around? And then, what is the inducement for RVI shareholders to approve the transaction with a no
premium or take-under premium? And then, the vote requirement, was it just the majority of whats
outstanding or what is it the disinterested shareholders? I didnt catch that.
Jim McGrady Retail Ventures Inc. President, CEO, CFO
For RVI, its a majority of the shareholders its Jim McGrady and Ill try to go through
some of the reasons. I think as Mike alluded to a little bit earlier in the call, that RVI no
longer operates as a holding Company for mobile retail operations since our disposition of Value
City department stores and Filenes Basement, and our principal interest is DSW.
We did review various legal and tax issues, and then we, along with DSW, concluded the most
effective structure for a merger transaction would be this downstream merger by which RVI merges
into a newly formed limited liability Company thats wholly owned by DSW.
We think there are some pretty significant inefficiencies in the current structure, and we really,
at RVI, dont have a regular source of income with which to pay expenses. And this is not news
thats been disclosed in our SEC filings for some number of periods now.
Historically, we believe that the trading price of RVIs common shares is reflected at a discount
to the underlying value of the DSW stock that weve held. I also believe that the discount has been
a likely result of, among other things, the perceived legacy of the RVI liabilities relating to
Filenes Basement and Filenes and the uncertainty of the future of RVI.
Additionally, the ongoing operating expenses at RVI and the lower trading activity of the RVI stock
as compared to that of DSW. So we do believe that there are some very solid reasons that this
merger is in the best interests for the RVI shareholders at this time.
Scott Houlihan OTA LLC Analyst
So its more efficient from a tax standpoint so that DSW can advantage the NOLs?
Jim McGrady Retail Ventures Inc. President, CEO, CFO
I believe that yes. And if we were to distribute our ownership in DSW stock to the
shareholders, I believe you would find that that would be a taxable thing.
Scott Houlihan OTA LLC Analyst
Right. Okay, thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes as a follow-up from the line of Chris Svezia with Susquehanna
Financial Group. You may proceed with your question.
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Chris Svezia Susquehanna Financial Group Analyst
Thank you. I actually have a question for Debbie. I didnt a Debbie question in. With the
comment that you made regarding pricing, what youre just seeing from an inflationary perspective,
or the cost, I should say, sort of that high to low double-digit seems like, generally speaking, on
average, and you mentioned some opportunistic buys that youre taking advantage of for fall 2011 to
obviously help mitigate some of this.
But what else are you guys doing or thinking about, whether its incremental, passing that price
increase on, or other ways in which youre mitigating, either going back to the vendor, or are you
reducing the number of units youre ordering? Im just trying to think about how youre looking to
offset that and how youre thinking about units if pricing is going up that much. Thank you.
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Chris, I think overall the way were thinking about pricing in general, because its a fact
that price increases are in play right now, so its a question of how much by what item and what
category. But our general position is that on commodity items, items that are big key items and
volume drivers, were going to try to protect the retail on those as best we can. So we really
dont want to increase our prices on our big volume drivers.
And we have had those discussions in the marketplace and are doing everything we can to try to
protect those big items. What are some of those opportunities? It could be the quantity that you
order. It could be the timing that we make them. It could be that we work on relationships with
factories where you make certain goods a little bit out of timing and they hold goods for you.
Theres all sorts of supply chain opportunities that were trying to work to be able to protect our
retails on our big key drivers.
The other items, which I call really kind of fashion impulse items, those are the places that not
only as we look at how we price each and every item in DSW, its also how the wholesalers, I think,
are really having to look at it. Where can they take price up where the price value relationship
really makes sense? And what has to happen to do that? They have to use better materials. They may
use better ornamentation. The perceived value, the price value, really has to be there.
So on an impulse fashion item where a customer is less apt to question price, its more about them
just having to have that fashion item. Thats a place where I think you can take a little bit more
liberty with increasing your prices. We have not yet solidified our fall plans for me to really
tell you that units are, in fact, going down in terms of how we buy or what were going to sell
relative to AUT and AUR. Were working through those numbers right now just based on what we came
out of market with. But thats our general position on how were looking at how we think its fair
to retail these goods relative to the cost increases were seeing.
Chris Svezia Susquehanna Financial Group Analyst
Okay. Thanks very much.
Debbie Ferree DSW Inc. Vice Chairperson, Chief Merchandising Officer
Youre welcome.
Operator
Our next question will come from the line of [Sachin Shah] with [Capital Markets]. You may
proceed with your question.
Sachin Shah Capital Markets Analyst
Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. So just to clarify, some of the approvals
that are needed, aside from the shareholder votes for both companies, is an SEC requirement in
addition to the SEC requirement of shareholder vote, is an HSR what other approvals are needed
to close the deal?
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Bill Jordan DSW Inc. General Counsel
Youre a little hard to hear and breaking up a little bit, but this is Bill and Ill try to
answer what I think the question was. On the RVI side, a majority of the outstanding shares of
Retail Ventures will be required to approve the merger. On the DSW side, it will be a majority of
the disinterested Class A shareholders who will have to approve the merger. We will need to file a
joint proxy statement/prospectus with the SEC, have that declared effective at a shareholders
meeting, and really no other consents or requirements needed prior to closing.
Sachin Shah Capital Markets Analyst
Okay. And just to clarify the PIES the share count. Is the share count you mentioned it
was going to go down 10%. So does that mean that the share count after the deal will go down from
45 to 40 to 41 and change or ?
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
Thats if we decide to settle the PIES in cash.
Sachin Shah Capital Markets Analyst
Okay. So it is from the 45 level? Its not from the 27.5 level?
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
Right.
Sachin Shah Capital Markets Analyst
Okay. And just wanted to clarify, how much net cash do you have or pro forma net cash that
youll have from this transaction?
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
Well again, a big variable in there is how we decide to settle the PIES, which wont be a
decision that well make until about August.
Sachin Shah Capital Markets Analyst
Okay. But excluding that?
Mike MacDonald DSW Inc. CEO
Well, depending on how we start to utilize the NOLs and the cash tax savings that come about
over the next few years.
Sachin Shah Capital Markets Analyst
Okay, thank you.
Operator
There are no additional questions at this time. We will now conclude our Q&A session, and I
would like to hand the call back over to Leslie Neville for closing remarks.
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Leslie Neville DSW Inc. Director IR
Thank you for joining us today. As always, we will taking follow-up calls all day today at our
home office. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you for attending todays conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now
disconnect and have a great day.
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Important Information For Investors And Shareholders
This communication does not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy
any securities or a solicitation of any vote or approval. The proposed Merger between DSW and
Retail Ventures will be submitted to the respective shareholders of DSW and Retail Ventures for
their consideration. DSW will file with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) a
registration statement on Form S-4 that will include a joint proxy statement of DSW and Retail
Ventures that also constitutes a prospectus of DSW. DSW and Retail Ventures will mail the joint
proxy statement/prospectus to their respective shareholders. DSW and Retail Ventures also plan to
file other documents with the SEC regarding the proposed transaction. INVESTORS AND SECURITY
HOLDERS OF RETAIL VENTURES AND DSW ARE URGED TO READ THE JOINT PROXY STATEMENT/PROSPECTUS AND OTHER
RELEVANT DOCUMENTS THAT WILL BE FILED WITH THE SEC CAREFULLY AND IN THEIR ENTIRETY WHEN THEY BECOME
AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY WILL CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPOSED TRANSACTION.
Investors and shareholders will be able to obtain free copies of the joint proxy
statement/prospectus and other documents containing important information about DSW and Retail
Ventures, once such documents are filed with the SEC, through the website maintained by the SEC at
www.sec.gov. DSW and Retail Ventures make available free of charge at www.dsw.com and
www.retailventuresinc.com, respectively (in the Investor Relations section), copies of materials
they file with, or furnish to, the SEC, or investors and shareholders may contact DSW at (614)
237-7100 or Retail Ventures at (614) 238-4148 to receive copies of documents that each company
files with or furnishes to the SEC.
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DSW, Retail Ventures, and certain of their respective directors and executive officers may be
deemed to be participants in the solicitation of proxies from the shareholders of Retail Ventures
and DSW in connection with the proposed transaction. Information about the directors and executive
officers of DSW is set forth in its proxy statement for its 2010 annual meeting of shareholders,
which was filed with the SEC on April 12, 2010. Information about the directors and executive
officers of Retail Ventures is set forth in its proxy statement for its 2010 annual meeting of
shareholders, which was filed with the SEC on May 14, 2010. These documents can be obtained free
of charge from the sources indicated above. Other information regarding the participants in the
proxy solicitation and a description of their direct and indirect interests, by security holdings
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materials to be filed with the SEC when they become available.
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intentions regarding future events. Words such as may, will, could, should, expect,
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Ventures expectations with respect to the synergies, costs, efficiencies, and other anticipated
financial impacts of the proposed transaction; future financial and operating results of the
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respect to future operations; approval of the proposed transaction by shareholders; the
satisfaction of the closing conditions to the proposed transaction; and the timing of the
completion of the proposed transaction.
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transaction is delayed or does not close, including due to the failure to receive required
shareholder approvals, the taking of governmental action (including the passage of legislation) to
block the transaction, or the failure to satisfy other closing conditions, and the possibility of
adverse publicity or litigation, including an adverse outcome thereof and the costs and expenses
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